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Bo! (now in a youve lost your frikkin mind voice)

Those late model restoration Whipple 2.3 prices are Higher than a 2$ hooker at Paris Hilton prices.
You could get a 3.4 and a BJ for that..........:smt102

 

thanks for the help chris but im a broke ass and need used. my motor has a rod laying in the oil pan i believe. i have my kenne bell setup sold and for this new motor build i want a 2.3whipple.

 

Go turbo if you can find the cash.

 

i dont have the cash to even build a motor but i gotta do something cant let my truck sit forever. the only reason i have the money for a whipple is im selling my 2.3 kenne bell

 

Put your Eaton back on it and build the motor, find a nice used Whipple later.

 

keep the KB

 

why you say that running damn 11.1 on stock block whipple combo. ok here is the deal im the process of selling the kb2.3 kit with plenum/ CAI/ pulleys and tool for $2400 that = whipple money lol/ motor i can borow close to $7500 to do a motor. im just so damn agrevated and confused as hell to what route to take. i dont want to build a motor and whipple it or kb it and run ****ing high 11's. i got one person say buy this and the others saying buy this. WTF do i do lol.

 

well bob thats my thing im not sure the 2.3kb can get me a 10sec pass or lets say i think the whipple would be easier to get there. whipple just seems to perform better

 

Fade-2-Black told me he ran a 11.09 on my 2.3 Kenne Bell at 24lbs of boost. On the same motor with the his 3.4 Whipple he ran a 11.05 on 20lbs of boost. I really don't think the 2.3 Whipple would have ran any better for him.

:smt102-Bob

 

The 2.3 Whipple has been shown to be about 2-3 tenths of a second better than a KB 2.3 with JLP plenum, Same truck. Some 2.3 Whipple numbers I have seen indicate the difference "could" be a bit more.

Jim

 

The 2.3 Whipple has been shown to be about 2-3 tenths of a second better than a KB 2.3 with JLP plenum, Same truck. Some 2.3 Whipple numbers I have seen indicate the difference "could" be a bit more.

Jim

Johnny Lightning thinks other wise.

:bigtu:bigtu-Bob

 

i like .2-.3 tenths faster lol

 

If he ran the Whipple(either one) at 24#s of boost, I guarantee he would have run faster, assuming traction was adequate.

Jim[/QUOTE]

If traction would have been adequate he would have had a 10.XX pass with my 2.3 Kenne Bell. I seen the test Ronnie did between the 2.3 Kenne Bell and the 2.3 Whipple. He stated with the Sheetmetal Plenum they were equal. The 2.3 Whipple might make more horse power but the 2.3 Kenne Bell out torques it.

:smt102-Bob

 

If he ran the Whipple(either one) at 24#s of boost, I guarantee he would have run faster, assuming traction was adequate.

Jim

If traction would have been adequate he would have had a 10.XX pass with my 2.3 Kenne Bell. I seen the test Ronnie did between the 2.3 Kenne Bell and the 2.3 Whipple. He stated with the Sheetmetal Plenum they were equal. The 2.3 Whipple might make more horse power but the 2.3 Kenne Bell out torques it.

:smt102-Bob[/QUOTE]

Well, at the track, in the real world, those dyno comparisons have been shown to be a poor indicator of true performance. I remember the testing Ronnie did. Not sure why his testing showed them to be so close. As said before. At the track the Whipple is winning. And I am sure there are more KB trucks out there than Whipple trucks. Lots trying to go fast. Big sample size.

Is the performance of the Whipple enough of a gain to get rid of a good KB? And put extra money out for the Whipple? Depends on how deep the pockets are, and how desperately the extra few tenths are needed.

Jim

 

Is the performance of the Whipple enough of a gain to get rid of a good KB? And put extra money out for the Whipple? Depends on how deep the pockets are, and how desperately the extra few tenths are needed.

Jim[/QUOTE]


i want the two extra tenths but i can only fork out around $2300 on a whipple and the problem with that is i cant find one now. this time last year they were on the internet like hot cakes for that price.

i think everyone has me talked into keeping the kb.

To top it all off i just found out the 2.3kenne bell i have came from
RyanR

i bought it on ebay and didnt know it was him untill a pm message

 

on another site we are trying to get a group buy on a big ticket item and the kb 2.6 and whip 2.3 are on the top of the list. its not set in stone but im crossing my fingers and my toes that its a twin screw [smilie=fi

 

Sell the KB, build engine and spray the house down. Much cheaper and less debt

Eatons on spray rock?

On a side note, I hope a deal like this for a 2.3KB comes along when I'm ready for another blower.

 

yea think you guys are right just keep the kb i have its like brand new. it will be another month or so before im done with my motor so in the meantime i can look for a deal on a whipple because right now i cant find one at a good deal nor a 2.6kb which i wouldnt mind having.

my thing is with the 2.3kb is they dont make them anymore and parts are becoming less common

 

Sorry to hear that your block took a shit on ya. Going in another direction, I have a stock block I pulled out for my build. Only has 6k miles on it and I only had 12#s of boost pushed through it before I yanked it out. Its a 2003 block with stock internals... like new. Cheaper this way till you get monies for a built block and you can keep your 2.3. 500 bucks and I can maybe deliver it.

--Matt

 

?/ a whipple 2.3 ?



I have the whole whipple 2.3 street kit (no tuning chip) 01-04 Lighting

If you want pics, email me stufftome@gmail.com

 

ok i know yall are gonna slap me for this after yall had me talked into keeping it, but yea i have found a whipple kit and its only 1 hour from my house so yea the kenne bell is back up forsale. Im selling the 2.3kb with 3.0 and 3.5 pulleys with removal tool along with a C&L Plenum and 98mm AEM CAI. $2300 shipped for all.

 

How were you only making 17 lbs. with a 6lb. lower and 3" upper? I'm making 16.5 with a 4lb. lower. POwer is the same roughly, but just curious. For the record, I'd keep the KB, but hey, what do I know.

 

Maybe he has heads/cams and Long Tubes with cats cut out?

 

the kb 2.3 is a good performing piece so is the whipple 2.3 .. but people do switch all the time .. if he wants a whipple 2.3 instead of the kb 2.3 ... thats his choice..

besides that kb 2.3 is Fing ugly as shit .. the whipple 2.3 is just so much of nicer looking unit..

 

besides that kb 2.3 is Fing ugly as shit .. the whipple 2.3 is just so much of nicer looking unit..

I think that is the 80% the reason people switch.

 

If i was you I would go get a 13 thousand dollar loan. call one of the supporting vendors and tell them to make you a 10 sec ride. The only hard part is eating peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches for 2 years straight.

 

Mmmm peanut butter and jelly!

BTW 13k sounds a little low to have a shop do it all for you.

 

ive ran that whipple for 2-3 yrs now .. and my pretty lil ford emblem sticker is still hanging tight...

i went last time with my stock block was 11.8 with a street tune on 93 gas.. at spring SSOTN.. my truck was slowed down by the 4.10s and it had a 5lb lower... but then again i was piloting my own truck , i didnt have a driver pilot it down the track for me

but then again.. to each there own ...

 

ive ran that whipple for 2-3 yrs now .. and my pretty lil ford emblem sticker is still hanging tight...

i went last time with my stock block was 11.8 with a street tune on 93 gas.. at spring SSOTN.. my truck was slowed down by the 4.10s and it had a 5lb lower... but then again i was piloting my own truck , i didnt have a driver pilot it down the track for me

but then again.. to each there own ...

My Lightning went 11.75. My Driver, James weighs a couple pounds more than me with alot less time behind the wheel of my Lightning. Your gears should have helped your short times along with your stall converter. The last time I checked 11.75 is still quicker than 11.80 even if you had a street tune running bicycle tires, LOL. Editted(I forgot to mention my A/F on that day of my Lightning's 11.75 pass was very rich, 10.8 A/F for all passes. Not to worry that has been corrected with better times to come.) Don't forget my Lightning times are from Mason Dixon Dragway, ask JJ, it is not known for track prep or great times. James and I have plans of coming down to play at your dragstrips to enjoy the better times that you guys have.

:bigtu:bigtu-Bob

 

[smilie=we

 

Never seen a Whipple 2.3 lock up and become a $2300 paper weight but sure have seen plenty of 2.3 KB's do that. Matter of fact I have one here that locked up so hard the customer thought the engine was locked up.

I know it was a direct replacement and the only offering back in the day and I still like how that supercharger performs and with the right attention to detail and a little paint you can make it look ok. Hell my best time in my personal truck was with a KB 2.3 and that was a 10.58, whereas the 2.3 Whipple can take you much deeper in ET and MPH due to the fact that it can be spun harder and faster. If you spin the KB 2.3 you risk hurting it and KB wont stand behind the unit one bit.

Sure a few snouts leak on Whipple 2.3's but I have never heard it costing the customer anything other then shipping. :bigtu

Time to lower your best ET mark Jimmy. SSOTN next month?

JJ

 

Absolutly JJ.. you know im looking forward to setting this truck loose..

 

MORE ON WHIPPLE 2.3 & LESS ON JJ PLEASE

 

awww come on now Bob... dont get your panties all bunched up...

thought everyone could have there own opinion and stuff.. or do we all have to think the way YOU do ...

:smt042

sorry for the HI jack O.P.

but you will like you whipple 2.3 ... its proven just as the KB 2.3 .. either one is a good unit (like stated before)

 

awww come on now Bob... dont get your panties all bunched up...

thought everyone could have there own opinion and stuff.. or do we all have to think the way YOU do ...

:smt042

I just took my panties off so you can kiss my ASS.

:hifu-Bob

 

After 10 years of developement, the best 2.3 KB trucks are running 10.5s with the added JLP plenum(a costly upgrade). The best 2.3 Whipple trucks with 5 years developement are running 10.2s. JJ in the BTJ truck and myself have our eyes on the 9s on boost. Numbers say it can be done if all is perfect.
As far as stock block times? Both blowers have performed well. Either is more than enough to run into the 10s, but at huge risk. Anyone running real low stock block times has performed major weight reduction. Smartest, safest way to better times.

Jim

 

After 10 years of developement, the best 2.3 KB trucks are running 10.5s with the added JLP plenum(a costly upgrade). The best 2.3 Whipple trucks with 5 years developement are running 10.2s. JJ in the BTJ truck and myself have our eyes on the 9s on boost. Numbers say it can be done if all is perfect.
As far as stock block times? Both blowers have performed well. Either is more than enough to run into the 10s, but at huge risk. Anyone running real low stock block times has performed major weight reduction. Smartest, safest way to better times.

Jim

:bigtu[smilie=3g

 

i look at it this way its my money and my truck and if i want something a certain way then thats what im shooting for. the 2.3Kb will probably do the job but i see whipple dominating right now. Plus whipple stands behind there stuff where kb dont far as the 2.3.

I dont care who dont like it, but im spending my money with JJ on a motor and tune and we will either tune it with a 2.3kenne bell that i own now or if i can sell it and buy the whipple then we will be tunning it with the whipple mounted. Customer service means everything to me and who do you see on the boards helping people out time and time again and answering the phone everytime i have called. (JJ at WMS)

If someone wants to buy me a built motor ill run anything you want me to have. I dont dislike the kenne bell just i wanted a whipple from the get go and i got a good deal on the kenne bell so i bought it. I hope it dont cost me $13k to go into the 10's if does NOS here we come.