[jking34167]

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/hel-7646 looking into buying this any input on this item is the hellwig front sway bar 7646. Also, does it come with all the end bar links or any of the bushings?

Thank you in advance
JH

 

[rsmsvtjr03]

Front Bar

The hellwig I got came with the end links and the frame bushings. You just need to pull the old one out with the end links and replace with the parts from hellwig.

 

[jking34167]

im also looking at it at amazon i think it might be cheaper with quicker shipping

this is the amazon link

 

[Jmc07ss]

Is this swaybar that good for our trucks or is there even more better model?

 

[jking34167]

Ive been reading, they are good cons is that it is heavier than original, in the other hand the hotckis one is hollow out and lighter and over all it will work way better as complete kit which is the tvs and its 1300

 

[cbxer55]

What I read in the reviews is that this swaybar should only be used with the same companies rear model. The oversize overstiff front one alone causes handling issues. That's what I would do in any event.

My Ranger did not have a rear sway bar when new. I added a Hellwig not long after I bought it. Along with the stock front one, my Ranger is a good handling truck.

 

[jking34167]

so if i was to buy this one right now and the rear one later is no good, is better to get both at the same time?

 

[No1sirbutler]

I bought mine together but I talked front and drove it for a week.....no issues. Truck did definitely handle better and that went up once the rear was installed

 

[jking34167]

i guess ill just order the front for now since its out of stock on amazon.

 

[SVT F-150]

You can install it now and it will decrease body roll. Theoretically, it will increase understeer to some extent when matched with the stock rear bar.

 

[jking34167]

So since it's my SD it won't be all that great? Either way I'm going to wait on this for now and just installed new bushing and new end links to the sway bar see if that helps out. Right now I just order all my tie rods and control arms to do the front end suspension. I have a real bad shake/play in my steering causing my entire truck to shake... see if that has to do with the problem I have.

 

[Killer Ride]

This is hands down the best sway bar. It is heavier but these trucks are beasts and this helps in cornering. It should come with everything however...if your truck is lowered you will have to modify the end links a little by getting shorter bolts and cutting the sleeves down. Make *SURE* to get all grade 8 hardware. You can change to a standard instead of metric (or vice or versa)but make sure everything is Grade 8.:bigtu

 

[bet on black]

so if i was to buy this one right now and the rear one later is no good, is better to get both at the same time?

it is best to have the right balance front to rear.

the hellwig is the stiffest bar for the L.

the hotchkiss is hollow and either the same outside diameter or smaller, i can't remember, and therefore less stiff than this solid bar.

 

[jking34167]

im going to wait it out for a while maybe a month then get the bars front and back and get everything needed for it. also, thanks for the inputs on what hardware to get. right now im just going to replace the bushings and the links on the front sway bar and im following a guys how to, to replace my entire front end suspension.

 

[Killer Ride]

I went with hellwig front and rear since regular F-150's dont come with a rear bar. It was the cheapest route at the time and it turns out it was the best decision for handling as well. I do agree if you go with say a TVS suspension kit, it should be balanced between front and rear. Friend of mine has TVS setup on his L and man can that thing handle. Cant wait to see how it turns out.:bigtu

 

[cbxer55]

Here's an article on sway bars by Tim Skelton. Very informative, as are all his Lightning articles. It appears, that despite being heavier, the Hellwig is the stiffest bar by far, front and rear.

Tim Skelton's take on anti sway bars

Some numbers from the article. Percent stiffer than the factory bars. Look at that rear! 144% stiffer than the factory Lightning bar!

Front Hotchkis 82%
Hellwig 105%
Rear Hotchkis 26%
Hellwig 144%

The Hotchkis bars weigh 16 pounds front and 6 pounds rear.
The Hellwig bars weigh 29 pounds front and 17 pounds rear.

I've got a Hellwig on the rear of my Ranger, which came with none stock. It's a good handling Ranger. Should replace the front with one as well.

 

[jking34167]

thanks for the link on this cbxer i looked for skeletons writing on this but every time i would look for it in svtperformance nothing came out.

time for some more reading

 

[HIGH_VOLTAGE]

I have the front and rear sitting in the garage waiting to go on. I do lots of research before buying anything and I can say for sure these are the best you will get

 

[cbxer55]

thanks for the link on this cbxer i looked for skeletons writing on this but every time i would look for it in svtperformance nothing came out.

time for some more reading

Not a problem. It's on my favorites list so I can post it when needed.

 

[jking34167]

hellwigs it is. now lets see how soon we can do this.