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post #31 of 43 (permalink) Old 05-26-2015, 08:54 AM
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Bob don't work that way. As long as you have been in the business you should know this.

Then why does the m112 case flow the same on a flow bench with both m112 and m122 rotors in it. Because the air that you supply regardless of rotor size is the same regardless of port or rotor size. My port on the inlet side is twice your size. And results are the same but you throw in m122 rotor in to gt500 blower cfm can be increased by pulley size of course but same pulley size the gt500 flows more. Now gt500 blower vs your hybrid supercharger. My lightning gt500 guys are making 50 ft lbs more then you off the hit. Power of these blowers is there torque. Why is this torque more. Because the gt500 and its rotors are a volume based type of blower. There is more volume in front of the gt500 blower rotors. Also as the air reaches high velocities the rear entry blower flows better into the rotors. The m112 lightning set up has way to many tight bends before it hits the rotors. Bigger rotors don't work in this case. Just like your cobra hybrid it ain't worth the money.

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I have a gt500 swapped lightning running 18 lbs making 600 ft lbs and 480 hp.

Brad guslers buddy is making 440-550 on a joker ported m112. That's more then your swapped gt500 blower set up at the same psi!!!! This just proves rotor size adds nothing

I don't like the fact your cooling the front part of the blower and not the rest of the blower. Thermal expansion of the blower needs to happen everywhere and it needs to happen naturally if you spin it to hard and you cool the front part of the blower the metal can't act normally and this creates rotor contact.. Don't mess with metal expansion please.


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The Hybrid setup is $1,500 and comes with our Stage 7 porting and is bolt on ready! If you have any questions or concerns give us a call we are always willing to help you with your build!

You said stage 8 in the video?????


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^^ That's what I thought I heard as well?? Maybe I am just hearing things.



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Thought he said stage 8 also regardless if you're going make a video about your product show it in the video not come on sounding like a car salesmen walking up to some dyno numbers posted on the screen. You state the tests were done by whom and when by what proof do we have. How long has this blower been on the test truck or trucks how many miles? What kind of numbers and how many times was this done. Not here busting chops but tired of seeing people getting screwed over by people with fraudulent claims of their products and services. Just would provide more information on it and show the backing of your research. Just my opinion.... But I am curious to see the research and data...... Not discrediting or trying to hurt anyone business but I just like to ask questions...
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Thought he said stage 8 also regardless if you're going make a video about your product show it in the video not come on sounding like a car salesmen walking up to some dyno numbers posted on the screen. You state the tests were done by whom and when by what proof do we have. How long has this blower been on the test truck or trucks how many miles? What kind of numbers and how many times was this done. Not here busting chops but tired of seeing people getting screwed over by people with fraudulent claims of their products and services. Just would provide more information on it and show the backing of your research. Just my opinion.... But I am curious to see the research and data...... Not discrediting or trying to hurt anyone business but I just like to ask questions...
its standard operation for stieg...you arent telling them anything new.
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Just had a shop take a steig m122 rotors in an112 case, and a steig port and swap it for one with stock rotors from me, picked up over 30hp.

Also previously the truck had rediculous iat issue . Those have been solved as well. nothing changed but the sc.

I'll have to disagree with the idea that adding length to the rotors in the section of the blower that sees almost no air is going to make any gains.



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Just had a shop take a steig m122 rotors in an112 case, and a steig port and swap it for one with stock rotors from me, picked up over 30hp.

Also previously the truck had rediculous iat issue . Those have been solved as well. nothing changed but the sc.

I'll have to disagree with the idea that adding length to the rotors in the section of the blower that sees almost no air is going to make any gains.
well shoot...can we extend the rotors all the way to the radiator then? Just run a cowl hood.

I'm picking, I know...but people have adjusted their boost bypass valves and solved the SAME issues before. Ironically, this is the first mention, outside of stieg, that has shown any "gain".
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This is a really old thread, but I’m just seeing it

All I want to say is that if I could find a cheap set of 122 rotors and a snout, I’d buy a spacer in a second.
Unlike many of the posters here, I’ve played with hybrids in the past. It was an M90/112 hybrid though, and it absolutely made more power and moved more air.
I’d happily try another one if it was cheap and had a chance at working.

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This is a really old thread, but Im just seeing it

All I want to say is that if I could find a cheap set of 122 rotors and a snout, Id buy a spacer in a second.
Unlike many of the posters here, Ive played with hybrids in the past. It was an M90/112 hybrid though, and it absolutely made more power and moved more air.
Id happily try another one if it was cheap and had a chance at working.


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This is a really old thread, but Im just seeing it

All I want to say is that if I could find a cheap set of 122 rotors and a snout, Id buy a spacer in a second.
Unlike many of the posters here, Ive played with hybrids in the past. It was an M90/112 hybrid though, and it absolutely made more power and moved more air.
Id happily try another one if it was cheap and had a chance at working.
This thread is old. And yet I sill have no heard of anyone running his hybrid setup that is running anywhere near good ported Eaton112s or MP112s. So I don't believe it will even work well. But with the availability of adding better blowers with new adapter plates, I think it is a real poor choice to go hybrid.

On your hybrid did you keep the same pulley ratio as the m90 ran?


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On your hybrid did you keep the same pulley ratio as the m90 ran?


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As close as I could get. We couldn’t change the lower on the old GM 3800. I ran a 3.0” upper with the M90 and the stock Lightning upper with the hybrid.

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