Whipple 3.4 with ice reservoir datalog - Lightning Forum

Mike Corrigan · 07-26-2009, 10:04 PM

These are just some initial data logs on a Ice box that slow04 put on his 3.4 truck. He is planning on putting the truck on the dyno for some more data before going to the track.

The top data is stock IC system with larger reservoir and aftermarket H.E.

The bottom data is with all fluid pumping through copper lines in an Ice Box. No heat exchanger.

Both logs were done within 5 minutes of each other. The "Ice Box" log was done 2nd, so everything was a lot warmer.

150xlt · 07-26-2009, 10:37 PM

Wow talk about a difference. The coolant was warmer so i am sure everything else was too and it still dropped 40*.

The Dude · 07-26-2009, 10:41 PM

Will you give some info on the ice box?

DolSVT00 · 07-26-2009, 10:46 PM

Mike, Is that using the box I Built? Or did he buy something ?

Mike Corrigan · 07-26-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DolSVT00

Mike, Is that using the box I Built? Or did he buy something ?

Same one, but he made some changes. He doubled the length of copper tubing in it.

banks · 07-26-2009, 11:01 PM

those are some good results. can you post some pics of the setup with the copper tubing. i saw similar results just running a 4 gallon tank in the bed with ice and larger diameter hose with a mez pump.

does the fluid flow through the tubing in the tank and the ice is around the tubing?

Mike Corrigan · 07-27-2009, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banks

does the fluid flow through the tubing in the tank and the ice is around the tubing?

Yes. Just like JL's power/super cooler.

chrisheltra · 07-27-2009, 07:43 AM

Impressive results

crewsy · 07-27-2009, 08:24 AM

What would the results be without the ice?...I ask because I am soon going to install a 7 gallon tank in the bed and am wondering if I could get by without using the HE...Since I am going to move the pump to the frame rail under the new tank, I could eliminate a lot of line without running through the HE...Or would I still be running high charge temps on a 85* day without icing.

slow 04 · 07-27-2009, 09:36 AM

First I'd like to thank Mike for the datalogs and DOLSVT00 aka Randy "the methanol king" for donating the box for the experiment...
Heres pics of the box

how i set it up aka the "sprinkler mod"

stock plenum

The trick

one glass at 32 degrees

one glass at -7 degrees

seret ingredient ..SALT

salt drops temps just like making ice cream

RyanR · 07-27-2009, 09:46 AM

Would salt not corrode up the tubing/intercooler? If not that is a great idea, it sure does keep beer nice and cold lol

The Dude · 07-27-2009, 09:47 AM

Good idea with the salt. I thought about the salt trick after watching Ice Cream Unwrapped on the Food Network.

stoffer · 07-27-2009, 09:48 AM

that's a good bit of info to tuck away for next track day

lkatya · 07-27-2009, 09:59 AM

Pretty cool! I'm assuming that the salty ice water is seperated from the coolant running through the copper lines. Do you know what the I/C coolant temps are getting down to after running through that system?

chrisheltra · 07-27-2009, 10:04 AM

Ive also thought about using dry ice but it didnt work like I wanted it too. Mainly because I added the dry ice to water. I should have added the dry ice to a dry cooling box.

07-26-2009, 10:04 PM	#1
Mike Corrigan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 269 Rep Power: 4775240	Whipple 3.4 with ice reservoir datalog These are just some initial data logs on a Ice box that slow04 put on his 3.4 truck. He is planning on putting the truck on the dyno for some more data before going to the track. The top data is stock IC system with larger reservoir and aftermarket H.E. The bottom data is with all fluid pumping through copper lines in an Ice Box. No heat exchanger. Both logs were done within 5 minutes of each other. The "Ice Box" log was done 2nd, so everything was a lot warmer. __________________ 6.71 @ 102.2 Best 1/8th on slicks Video 7.08 @ 98.9 Best 1/8th on 18" Drag Radials Video Mods: Whipple 2.3, Built Long Block Last edited by Mike Corrigan; 07-26-2009 at 10:09 PM.

07-26-2009, 10:37 PM	#2
150xlt Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Corydon, In Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 71582864	Wow talk about a difference. The coolant was warmer so i am sure everything else was too and it still dropped 40. __________________ 97 F150...I need links Just* wanted to let you know I received my stimulus package Yesterday.... It contained watermelon seeds, Cornbread mix, and Ten coupons to KFC. Directions were in Spanish.

07-26-2009, 10:41 PM	#3
The Dude FUBARed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Livin' in a van down by the river Posts: 893 Rep Power: 5964539	Will you give some info on the ice box? __________________ Silver '02, polished KB 2.3 @ 15psi, stock LB, Dynatech LT, 2/4 drop, expy console, tuned by JDM Last edited by The Dude; 07-27-2009 at 09:43 AM.

07-26-2009, 10:46 PM	#4
DolSVT00 Eat,Sleep,Drink,Race Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 1,894 Rep Power: 57573491	Mike, Is that using the box I Built? Or did he buy something ? __________________ My Streetfire Videos My Youtube Videos Our local forum Carolina horsepower Last edited by DolSVT00; 07-26-2009 at 10:47 PM.

07-26-2009, 11:01 PM	#6
banks Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 3,473 Rep Power: 18444400	those are some good results. can you post some pics of the setup with the copper tubing. i saw similar results just running a 4 gallon tank in the bed with ice and larger diameter hose with a mez pump. does the fluid flow through the tubing in the tank and the ice is around the tubing? __________________ '02 Silver Lightning - Built motor - Whipple 2.3 - Built By Me/Tuned by Brian @ EFI '93 Mustang Fox Body - Under Construstion Turbo? Nitrous? Help Me Decide 4 Pound Pulley FOR SALE http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum...057#post560057 banks

07-27-2009, 07:43 AM	#8
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07-27-2009, 08:24 AM	#9
crewsy JERRY'S BITCH Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,161 Rep Power: 71583015	What would the results be without the ice?...I ask because I am soon going to install a 7 gallon tank in the bed and am wondering if I could get by without using the HE...Since I am going to move the pump to the frame rail under the new tank, I could eliminate a lot of line without running through the HE...Or would I still be running high charge temps on a 85* day without icing. __________________ "FEEL THE LIGHTNING, WAIT ON THE THUNDER" "BEAUTIFULLY TUNED BY JJ"

07-27-2009, 09:36 AM	#10
slow 04 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 304 Rep Power: 2932481	iat's reduced First I'd like to thank Mike for the datalogs and DOLSVT00 aka Randy "the methanol king" for donating the box for the experiment... Heres pics of the box how i set it up aka the "sprinkler mod" stock plenum The trick one glass at 32 degrees one glass at -7 degrees seret ingredient ..SALT salt drops temps just like making ice cream __________________ 04 Silver Lightning 10 second club1.45 60ft 6.75 1/8 10.66 1/4 @124.96 www.darylsmithdrywall.com

07-27-2009, 09:46 AM	#11
RyanR Your arrogance insults me Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Star City, AR Posts: 586 Rep Power: 8251651	Would salt not corrode up the tubing/intercooler? If not that is a great idea, it sure does keep beer nice and cold lol

07-27-2009, 09:47 AM	#12
The Dude FUBARed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Livin' in a van down by the river Posts: 893 Rep Power: 5964539	Good idea with the salt. I thought about the salt trick after watching Ice Cream Unwrapped on the Food Network. __________________ Silver '02, polished KB 2.3 @ 15psi, stock LB, Dynatech LT, 2/4 drop, expy console, tuned by JDM

07-27-2009, 09:48 AM	#13
stoffer could splode at anytime club (x2) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Texas / Germany Posts: 21,660 Rep Power: 71583538	that's a good bit of info to tuck away for next track day __________________ stuff for sale/trade (updated on 5 Feb 2010) http://www.lightningrodder.com/forum...02&postcount=1 sig thanks to Watson91 @ http://screen-fx.net/forum/index.php - '03 Harley Davidson Edition - shows in stock class - worlds first snake bit Harley Truck - '01 Lariat -F-150 supercab - procharged @15#, full Lightning suspension, and much more coming - Eddie Bauer Expedition - wife says "no boost"

07-27-2009, 09:59 AM	#14
lkatya KB 2.6 Equipped SRT EATER Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,270 Rep Power: 71582877	Pretty cool! I'm assuming that the salty ice water is seperated from the coolant running through the copper lines. Do you know what the I/C coolant temps are getting down to after running through that system? __________________ *Stage 2 motor Built by Scott "The Hawk" Hesselgrave.....KB2.6.....JLP Powerflow Plenum.....JLPCR exhaust.....Circle-D stage 2 trans.....and all supporting modsTEAM SWANSON***

07-27-2009, 10:04 AM	#15
chrisheltra Motor Sploder Avoider Club Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 3,031 Rep Power: 41378653	Ive also thought about using dry ice but it didnt work like I wanted it too. Mainly because I added the dry ice to water. I should have added the dry ice to a dry cooling box. __________________ Buy my Stock Ported Throttle Body \|Buy my YFZ450 <<<clicky My Youtube Vids Not a proud memeber of the Motor Sploder Club Founder of the Anti-Motor Sploder Club New times to come South Carolina Lightning and Fast Car Owner? Check HERE

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