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Cogs For A Deal (Pics Enclosed)

Long story short, found a set of cogs I couldn't refuse. Had some family passing through pick it up. For the most part all is in good shape. The crank pulley is what has me worried. There are wear marks on the edge of the pulley, in two locations. Will this be an issue? The deal was so good I couldn't pass it up, but maybe i should have. Let me know what you guys think
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Here's everthing I ended up getting.
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I️ think u should be fine, there is no sufficient damage to rip the belts or skip over it
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what's the story behind the wear? I'd have passed on them though. how good of a deal?

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what's the story behind the wear? I'd have passed on them though. how good of a deal?
An older gentleman bought his 2nd harley. Wanted it back to stock. Mentioned they had been lying in his garage for a year. Motoblue I believe. $100, so I couldn't refuse. Fresh posting on CL in ATL (Sorry locals)
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The wear on the edge will not be a problem. I have one pulley I got from RPM Outlet that has a little wear on the edge (offered a discount when I bought them because of this). The pulleys are wider than the belt to begin with, and the belt rarely if ever will be on the edge.of the pulleys. The rims on the idler pulleys and tensioner will determine where the belt rides. And it is entirely possible to shim the tensioner with washers to put the belt where you want it on the pulleys. That's what I did, put washers on the tensioner that move it forward a hair. The belt rides on the back rim of the tensioner, but is centered on the idlers and upper/lowers.

My belt originally wanted to stay on the rear edge of the upper and lower, and rode the rear rim on the idlers, when I first installed them. When I put Brett's manual tensioner on, I took the time to play with various thickness washers on the interface between the tensioner and the pulley bracket. It took numerous on and off sessions, but I finally got a set of washers that positioned the belt in the center of everything except the tensioner pulley. I can live with the belt riding the rear rim of the tensioner pulley, it is causing no excessive wear since the rim itself is smooth.

From what I see, you could take a Dremel tool and smooth the rough edges, wouldn't worry about it myself. Then have the pulley re-powdercoated or anodized. The pulleys are hard aluminum, so could chip like that if dropped. I would use it myself, and just do what I said above, adjust the belt position to keep it away from the damage. You could always flip the lower around, and put the damage front or rear, depending on where the belt wants to ride on it.

From the two lowers I have, they both have the same distance from the center to the edge, so they can be mounted either way.

btw: both sets of cogs I bought came with two lipped idlers. Looks like yours doesn't even have one. Relying solely on the tensioner pulley to keep the belt on all the others. I have two unused RPM Outlet lipped idlers, if you should possibly want them. They're black and not been used since I use two of those custom idlers made by chickenwings_85.
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I was wondering if the belt would be on the edge which could cause a problem, since not then you should be ok by cbxer55

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An older gentleman bought his 2nd harley. Wanted it back to stock. Mentioned they had been lying in his garage for a year. Motoblue I believe. $100, so I couldn't refuse. Fresh posting on CL in ATL (Sorry locals)
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that's good deal?
I thought so. Hope thats not sarcasm. Had my fingers crossed on it not being a total loss. Still need a belt and a pulley hub (upper). Also lipped idlers.
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I thought so. Hope thats not sarcasm. Had my fingers crossed on it not being a total loss. Still need a belt and a pulley hub (upper). Also lipped idlers.
saw some lipped chicken ears on gen 2 classified

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saw some lipped chicken ears on gen 2 classified
I looked but didn't find them.
Does anybody know where everyone got their parts anodized?
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saw some lipped chicken ears on gen 2 classified
chickenwings_85 idlers, not chickenears. Chickenears never made anything cog related.

Z-Rated Performance LLC (chickenwings_85) pulley special

Anyhow, there are three chickenwings_85 idlers available on this ad for a MP Pulley bridge. Maybe he could be convinced to separate things?

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As stated in my above post, I have two unused RPM Outlet black anodized lipped idlers for cogs. These are not double bearing, but single bearing. Don't care if they are sold or not, just offering if you need them. $100.00 for both shipped.

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Another thing to keep in mind with cog belts. For some reason, every time you change belts, where the belt rides on the pulleys changes. Thus necessitating a change of the washers between the tensioner and the bridge to set things right again. Fortunately, in my experience, belts seem to last a long enough time to not be a serious problem. I've only had to toss one belt in the round open top file since 2011. And I believe it was a fluke.

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Did some searching, the pulleys are 90 mm. Here is the thread where he first offered them for sale.

New Pricing on 90mm Double Bearing Idlers!!!

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